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does bad weed have seeds

Are seeds in weed an indication of bad weed or just poorly tended weed?

My guy is having this deal where an oz. of a particular mid grade is half price because, as he warns, it has seeds in it.

It seems like a good deal, are seeds really that annoying? I don't mind just picking them out.

Thanks in advance!

They're annoying there are a ton of seeds.

If there are so many that the guy is actually dropping the price and warning you about it, then it's probably enough to be pretty annoying.

But. that doesn't mean the weed itself won't get you high, a deal is a deal, and if you're OK with picking through the seeds then it's really not a big deal.

Just be careful if you have a grinder, you don't want to break up the seeds and smoke bitter seed pieces, it's worse than smoking stems.

Garden Weeds

Like the uninvited house guest that never leaves, weeds can stretch the limits of your patience and have you dreaming up creative strategies for getting rid of them. The common conception is that they are all bad and unwelcome, but do they have any redeeming qualities?

really just a wild plant that grows where we don’t want it to, one that we didn’t intentionally sow. Weeds are opportunistic and aggressive. They tend to dominate over and compete with other plants for water, light, soil nutrients, and space. Pernicious and persistent, these intrusive, uninvited guests interfere with and wreak havoc on our gardening plans. We label them as undesirable and attempt to control them. We try to outsmart nature, but in nature there is no such thing as a weed – they are just plants like any others.

“Both humans and nature are involved in plant breeding programs. The main difference between the two programs is that man breeds plants for yield, while nature breeds plants for survival.”

Dwight Ligenfelter, Agronomist, Penn State University source

So how might we describe the unwelcome weed?

250,000 species of plants worldwide, about 3% or 8000 species demonstrate “weed behavior.” Weeds are tough cookies. They are known for their abundant seed production and the long-term survival of their buried seeds. Weeds populate rapidly, adapting to the environment where they may happily occupy land disturbed by gardening activities.

Weeds may be native or non-native, invasive and/or noxious, annual, biennial or perennial. Understanding the differences in their specific characteristics and growing seasons is essential for their management.

Annual, Biennial and Perennial Weeds

Annual Weeds / Summer and Winter

Annual weeds germinate, flower, and spread only by seed, generally dying within a one year.

These are often very difficult to manage. Summer annual weeds such as crabgrass, knotweed, and prostrate spurge often sprout as soil temperatures warm in spring or early summer, then grow and produce seed until the first fall frost.

Winter annuals such as shepherd’s purse, common chickweed, yellow rocket and annual bluegrass germinate from seed in the late summer or early fall, propagate in spring, then die out in summer as they don’t thrive in hot temperatures.

Biennial Weeds

Many common weeds and wildflowers are biennials. These weeds have a two-year life cycle. They germinate and form a rosette (a plant form with no central stalk), then a thistle. Then they flower and produce seeds in their second year, after which they die.

Perennial Weeds / Simple and Spreading

Perennial weeds, consisting of simple and spreading varieties, do not die out after flowering and return every year.

The simple perennial weeds are also called solitary perennials because they grow individually. Simple perennials, such as dandelions, curly dock, and plantains, spread only by seed.

Spreading perennials also emerge from seed but spread by sending out rhizomes (which grow underground) or stolons (which grow above the soil). These spreading perennials, like bermuda grass, bindweed, and ivy are the most difficult to control.

Invasive and Noxious Weeds

Invasive Weeds

An invasive plant, according to the USDA, is one that is both non-native and able to establish itself on many sites, grow quickly, and spread to the point of disrupting plant communities or ecosystems. When populating a non-native environment, these weeds often lack the natural enemies to curtail their growth, enabling them to dominate native plants and disrupt ecosystems.

Noxious Weeds

By legal definition (Federal Plant Protection Act), a noxious plant is one designated by federal, state or local government officials as injurious to public health, agriculture, recreation, wildlife or property. Once a weed is classified as noxious, authorities can implement quarantines and take actions to contain or destroy the weed in order to limit its spread.

The USDA maintains a list of federally-recognized noxious weeds and it is illegal to import listed noxious plants of any kind or transport them across state lines. You can view a list of noxious weeds by state here

Native or Non-native Weeds

According to the USDA, a native plant (or weed) is one “that is a part of the balance of nature that has developed over hundreds or thousands of years in a particular region or ecosystem.” A plant is only native to a particular geographical area, so it’s important to include that qualifier when referring to a plant as native (i.e., native to New England). Only those plants found in the United States before European settlement are considered to be native in this country.

How to put weeds to work

Emerson wrote that a weed is a plant whose virtue has not yet been discovered. Under controlled circumstances, some weeds can greatly benefit the garden, both practically and aesthetically.

They may help retain water to increase moisture and nutrients, functioning as a type of living mulch to maintain top soil. Some weeds can help work the soil. Dandelions and radishes, for example, can have 18-inch-deep roots that act as “bio-drills” to loosen shallow layers of compacted soil.

With each vegetable garden harvest the soil loses some nutrients. From the subsoil, weeds accumulate vital nutrients that then get absorbed into their leaves. Their decaying taproots produce organic matter and entryways for worms and beneficial soil microbes that can fertilize the soil. Weeds also serve as conduits for rain and air to penetrate the soil.

Some weeds can repel other pests. Although they may seem like pests themselves, some weeds like neem can actually help control undesirable bugs while attracting beneficial insects to help maintain biodiversity in the garden.

What weeds can teach us about the soil

While weeds can be invasive and noxious, they may at times also be useful. The sprouting of weeds can reveal a lot about the soil’s health, possibly signaling the need for amendments, worm castings or compost. As most weeds favor specific soil types, identifying the weed variety will offer important insight about the particular soil condition and can aid in managing the their growth.

Some weeds thrive best in moist and wet soils, while others do best in dry and sandy soils. While some prefer acidic or alkaline, hard compacted or heavy clay soils, other weeds favor well drained humus soils or low fertility soils. A little research to identify your garden’s weeds will reveal a lot about your soil conditions and serve as a useful tool for improving and maintaining the garden.

Weeds so lovely you could just eat them up

On the aesthetic front, some weeds are lovely to look at. Some are wild relatives of their cultivated cousins. And there are even edible varieties packed with flavor and abundant nutrients. Dandelions, for example, are thought of as weeds, yet during their peak early spring flowering period, they will attract bees and other pollinators. Dandelion leaves can also become a tasty compliment to one’s garden-to-table meal.

So as far as bad versus good, it’s all pretty much how you look at it. Check out our follow-up article: How to Naturally Control Weeds, and stay tuned for more in our new series about weeds.

Author: Robin Horton is editor-in-chief of Urban Gardens, the award-winning and Webby-nominated design, sustainable living and travel blog.

She also writes about community gardens, edible landscaping, sustainable urban agriculture, and micro-farms.

Do seeds from Bad bag weed produce bad bud grow?

Yeah, there’s a 100W HPS at the top, just one plant to maturity.

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BTW, anyone have any ideas as to the strain?

Growth: 100W MH + Four T30 Fluorescents, 5000K
Flower: 100W HPS + Four T30 Flourescents, 3000K

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I was pondering this, and came to the conclusion good weed is usually good because the grower paid attention to what the plants needs were, genetics does have a large play on how they mature, but in the end they all mature in to weed. its just like us humans some people are healthy all the time, some have to work to stay healthy. other have to work really hard.

I would opt for the best bag seed you can come by and start there.

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I was pondering this, and came to the conclusion good weed is usually good because the grower paid attention to what the plants needs were, genetics does have a large play on how they mature, but in the end they all mature in to weed. its just like us humans some people are healthy all the time, some have to work to stay healthy. other have to work really hard.

I would opt for the best bag seed you can come by and start there.

He says it best – Some people are natural born "mesomorphs" and make the best bodybuilders, with little effort. and some of use are "ectomorphic" and some are "endomorphic". where as mesos gain muscle and lose fat with no problem, ectos lose fat but can’t gain muscle, and endos gain muscle but cant lose fat. It’s all in genetics – but with devotion and careful attention, anyone can trick their genes and be a bodybuilder, but they might not ever win a competition.

So some weak strain of bagseed may not win you the cannabis cup – but you could still double or even triple the potency compared to the bag you got it from. Just watch out – if growing genetically "bad" weed very well, small mistakes and errors could really hit you a lot harder than some one growing a more stable strain. Really pay attention.