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  • Discussion: Growing with Coco-Coir

No growth after germination in coco coir?

  • Thread starter Cheesecakes
  • Start date Oct 26, 2017
  • Tags advanced nutrientscocococo coirgrowthhelpmepleaseperliterqs
Cheesecakes
Auto Warrior

Strain: Royal cookies RQS
Media: Coco coir 65% Perlite 35%
Nutrients: Advanced nutrients coco grow A+B
Additives: Advanced nutrients B52, Voodoo juice
Light: 600w super T MH , 200w Helios COB
Timer: on 20-4 off
Temp: day 25c, night 20c
Humidity: 65%
Ventilation: rhyno extractor + 2 fans for circulation
Grow tent: 1.5×1.5m

Soaking the seeds in water 8hours, put in paper towels over night tap root appeared after 2 days. Pre washed the coco coir and prepared the pots, planted and put in the propagator for 1-2 weeks. Up potted to 8litre fabric pots, further 10 days have passed with no sign of growth?
Being watered every other day with nutrients, A 0.6ml B 0.6, Voodoo 2ml, B52 2ml per litre.
I have no idea what is going wrong with these seedlings well they should be growing fast! I’ve grew quite a lot of plants now in all different ways! But now using only coco I can’t get them to grow? Is it the free RQS seeds? Is it the coco coir because it’s compacted into bricks?
I’ve bought canna’s coco coir pro plus and I’ve ordered new seeds fem’s and auto’s!
This keeps on going and I’ll have wasted a lot of money. Any help thanks

Unique
Experienced Auto Grower

Strain: Royal cookies RQS
Media: Coco coir 65% Perlite 35%
Nutrients: Advanced nutrients coco grow A+B
Additives: Advanced nutrients B52, Voodoo juice
Light: 600w super T MH , 200w Helios COB
Timer: on 20-4 off
Temp: day 25c, night 20c
Humidity: 65%
Ventilation: rhyno extractor + 2 fans for circulation
Grow tent: 1.5×1.5m

Soaking the seeds in water 8hours, put in paper towels over night tap root appeared after 2 days. Pre washed the coco coir and prepared the pots, planted and put in the propagator for 1-2 weeks. Up potted to 8litre fabric pots, further 10 days have passed with no sign of growth?
Being watered every other day with nutrients, A 0.6ml B 0.6, Voodoo 2ml, B52 2ml per litre.
I have no idea what is going wrong with these seedlings well they should be growing fast! I’ve grew quite a lot of plants now in all different ways! But now using only coco I can’t get them to grow? Is it the free RQS seeds? Is it the coco coir because it’s compacted into bricks?
I’ve bought canna’s coco coir pro plus and I’ve ordered new seeds fem’s and auto’s!
This keeps on going and I’ll have wasted a lot of money. Any help thanks

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Unique
Experienced Auto Grower
blooded robot from cyberspace

Hi There, here’s some information you may find handy for when you recieve your Canna Coco Pro Plus

https://www.autoflower.net/forums/threads/canna-coco-growing-tips.29173/
It’s all taken from the canna infopages – quoting directly from them (no opinions . just the facts laid out by Canna).

Hope this helps!

And here’s a comprehensive germination guide which also may help!

All the best
Blue

Unique
Experienced Auto Grower

Hi There, here’s some information you may find handy for when you recieve your Canna Coco Pro Plus

https://www.autoflower.net/forums/threads/canna-coco-growing-tips.29173/
It’s all taken from the canna infopages – quoting directly from them (no opinions . just the facts laid out by Canna).

Hope this helps!

And here’s a comprehensive germination guide which also may help!

All the best
Blue

blooded robot from cyberspace

Thanks Unique, but I can’t take any credit for the advice – it is the advice from the manufacturers of Canna Coco Pro Plus. There’s a section on the CAnna website where you can become a member and gain access to the more indepth canna infopages which is where most of the quotes come from.

I’d strongly advise if using the lineup as suggested by canna, that a struggling new coco grower sticks firmly to what they say.
Although it’s always fun to experiment!

Unique
Experienced Auto Grower

Thanks Unique, but I can’t take any credit for the advice – it is the advice from the manufacturers of Canna Coco Pro Plus. There’s a section on the CAnna website where you can become a member and gain access to the more indepth canna infopages which is where most of the quotes come from.

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I’d strongly advise if using the lineup as suggested by canna, that a struggling new coco grower sticks firmly to what they say.
Although it’s always fun to experiment!

blooded robot from cyberspace

Hehe, I’m not disagreeing with you at all! I don’t think canna are telling you you’ve been taught wrong either

I think there’s some rational in a lot of what they are saying as it is "Specifically" to their product "Canna Coco Pro Plus" – which as already been rinsed and buffered and free from salts that previously you wouldn’t have been able to buy (when only coir bricks were available)

So i think that their recommendations are also in line with their testing on the product. For example they advise (if i recall) to water to 20% (or was 10) run off as drain to waste. This really should alleviate any need for flushing as your watering regime (to run off) should not allow any salt buildup.

As for their recommendation on watering with a minimum of 0.8ec – I believe the Canna Coco Pro Plus is already buffered to that and is not harmful to a sprouting seedling.

I definately agree with you that treating defs when there is most likely a PH problem is one of the most common causes of lack of success.

I used canna coco pro plus for about 2-3 years before recently swapping to Soil and organics to cut down my workload. I’m finding it less intensive lol but had great (so far better) results with coco.

It’s all good! I still really do believe that if you have the right environment, & buy the CAnna lineup and follow their instructions (not feed schedule as they don’t have one for autoflowers) to the note, you will definately reach harvest. It’s been tested too many times for me not to believe it

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So in summary – it’s not advise for ALL coco and nutrient line ups – Just the canna one (which i only really brough up as he’s ordered it )

Seed Starting with Coconut Coir Pellets Posted on 25 Feb 07:31 , 2 comments

Unlike peat moss, which is highly acidic, coconut coir has a neutral pH level. Most garden vegetables and flowers grow best in neutral to slightly alkaline conditions. When you use peat to amend a garden bed, an addition of agricultural lime is often necessary to combat the higher acidity. With coconut coir, limestone isn’t necessary unless the soil naturally has a higher pH level. Coir use results in both a monetary and a labor savings, since you don’t need to purchase further pH amendments nor work them into the soil.

-Coir improves soil drainage in the bed while also helping to retain moisture in quick-draining soils. Since coir breaks down slowly, much like peat, it creates air pockets in the soil that allow excess moisture to drain away from plant roots. The coir itself holds onto some moisture so the drainage doesn’t occur too quickly and the soil doesn’t dry out completely. These dual drainage and retention properties allow coir to improve moisture management in both heavy clay soils and dry, sandy beds.

-Peat moss, which coir replaces as a soil amendment, takes centuries to regrow once harvested. Coir is completely sustainable since it is a natural byproduct of coconut harvests, and coconut trees produce new coconuts every year. Using the coir in the garden keeps it out of the landfill where it would otherwise go. Coir can take a century or longer to fully break down in these landfills, so it’s more sustainable to use it to improve your garden soil.